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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffSean_0000001 Date: Sep 30, 2010 9:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: New to the Dead

Hey there. I'm completely new to the Dead, and I really like what I'm listening to. I have the 1986-03-24 show at the Spectrum, and it's got to be one of the most awesome albums that I own. I come here to you Dead Heads to ask you which, in your opinion, is the best show?

Please recommend me some shows.

Thank you for your time.

Sean

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Oct 1, 2010 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Welcome Sean. I'll admit I'm envious--your ears have many a great show to enjoy for the first time and you've come to the right place.

As a listener, I try to appreciate all eras of the Dead's music (even some of the post-Jerry stuff) but it seems the early 70s are a good place to start. '76 and '77 are also popular years, but I recommend listening to 8/13/75 (aka One from the Vault) before heading into the big post-hiatus shows. It sets up the new direction they were taking at the time perfectly.

Happy listening and don't be a stranger here, even if you feel like one sometimes...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 1, 2010 8:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Kumbaya Mother F**kers!

Look at how nice everyone is playing today?!

Outstanding...re, CM's query above, this thread shows that this place is filled with kindness, and light; flowers and hugs and kisses, and green meadows in bright sunshine, and then you step in Bessies' morning doo...doo. But just wipe it off and keep smiling when it happens.

Welcome Sean; it's a great place! Enjoy.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 1, 2010 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: SPAM

From early MIDI and lofi wave audio compositions of the 1990's:

http://www.archive.org/details/XenophobeVolume2

To fairly recently renders of algorithmically influenced creations:

http://www.archive.org/details/stochastic_arts

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 1, 2010 4:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

I'm not new, but I'm far less knowledgeable than most folks here and still trying to educate myself. One thing you can do is click on "Today in history" each day and sample a couple of things from different eras. These are frequently weighted towards 1990s unfortunately, which most (not everyone, but most) seem to agree is much weaker overall. The band's sound changed dramatically over time, almost schizophrenically, so there is a lot to sample. Don't listen to anyone who tries to make you feel bad if you like one era over another.

You can also try listening to the same show from a couple of different sources - for each show you can click "Check for other copies" to see what's available. There are soundboards, matrixes and audience recordings, generally. The first are the most pristine sound, generally, and the latter are often livelier - lots of crowd noise, which may or may not be your cup of tea. Sometimes that's wonderful, the roar of the crowd really gives you the feeling you were there ... and for those of us who at least a few times *were* there, it's a rush. Other times it's very annoying that people are talking over the music or shouting drunken nonsense.


Edit - I want to second the recommendation for 8/6/71 - can't go wrong with this for a newbie. Turn it up loud!

4/12/78, much of which is on youtube, is also good for newbies; so much of that good times feel.

This post was modified by ringolevio on 2010-10-01 11:42:59

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Oct 1, 2010 1:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

here's some more great places to start by my favorite years:

8/21/68
http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-08-21.sbd.cotsman.17355.sbeok.shnf

4/21/69
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1969-04-21.sbd.miller.88465.sbeok.flac16

5/15/70 (MASSIVE show - you'll want to devote a whole evening to this)
http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-05-15.early-late.sbd.97.sbeok.shnf

8/6/71
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-08-06.aud.bertrando.yerys.129.sbeok.shnf

8/27/72
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-08-27.sbd.latvala-eaton-lutch-dankseed.4682.shnf

11/17/73
http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-11-17.sbd.gardner.4749.sbeok.shnf

7/19/74
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-07-19.sbd.miller.32634.sbeok.flac16






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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffSean_0000001 Date: Oct 2, 2010 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Is there a downloadable version of this show? I don't know if I can stay tethered to my computer all evening to listen to it hahaha.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Oct 1, 2010 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Sean, you will get many opinions on different eras. Don't be swayed right off the bat. Go with what you like. The archive has so much I'm sure you'll find your favorites. My advice, go to www.setlists.net. You can filter many ways, year, songs, venue ect. There is also a direct link to the archive from there.
Once you get your feet wet hope you hang around the forum.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffSean_0000001 Date: Oct 21, 2010 12:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-05-15.early-late.sbd.97.sbeok.shnf

Does anyone know if I can find this show as a series of MP3 files? I really, really want to listen to it, but I don't know if I can sit in front of my computer for that long.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Sep 30, 2010 10:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Let's put things in perspective. I have a long list of favorites, and there isn't one show from '86 on it. You have a ton of listening to do. Welcome.

Here are three very different and essential shows. All amazing.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1970-09-19.mtx.chappell.SB14.31510.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-26.sbd.waddell.89641.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-02-26.sbd.steve.253.shnf

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 1, 2010 5:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

>I have a long list of favorites, and there isn't one show from '86 on it. >

Yeah, that's true for me, too, but I listened to the Box of Rain from Sean Many-Zeros' show, and it's wonderful. It had just been broken out in Hampton a few days earlier, I think (I'm no expert either, LOL); the crowd is ecstatic, and I think it would make anyone happy to hear it now, too ...

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 1, 2010 6:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Not that there aren't some worthy 86 shows, epsecially pre-coma. Just none that I would consider among my favorites.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Oct 2, 2010 12:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

I'll start with these.

2-14-86 Oakland CA
Cal-Expo
Frost
Greek

None are top ten pix; but there were a good shows during the spring and early summer...



This post was modified by cousinkix1953 on 2010-10-02 07:25:12

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Oct 1, 2010 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Welcome.

More than a little overwhelming, isn't it? I'm sure you'll receive many, many suggestions.

I'd be happy to email to you (and anyone else) a Word document in which I assembled one page on each of the most downloaded shows, 1966-1978. For the 500 best shows, you get a sinlge page with my concise summary, references to mentions in print, the setlist, notes from Deadlists or elsewhere, a review or two, and the URL.

I made it for private use, so it's not flawless, but it makes skimming through tours, years, or eras pretty easy. It also can be the core of your own document where you record which shows you own and what you think of them.

If you'd like it, email me at mmiedmonds at gee mail dot com and I'll attach it to a reply. Then I'll delete your email from my laptop.

So welcome, again. This forum has its ups and downs, but I've never found a more knowledgeable, friendly, and generous community of Deadheads online.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffSean_0000001 Date: Oct 4, 2010 7:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Thanks all for the suggestions. I've got a lot of listening to do, apparently!

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Oct 1, 2010 5:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

You will obviously find a lot of opinions here, many early Dead supports, including me. Try this one from 1970 for some interesting drumming after Good Lovin' and then a great Truckin>Other One>Goin down the Road>Not Fade Away jam.

Bonus is that the New Riders play as well!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1970-10-23.aud.wolfson.motb-0004.85071.flac16

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Poster: advokat Date: Sep 30, 2010 10:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Sean, as Cliff will quickly inform you, it appears that you inadvertently transferred the 68 in 1986, when it should say 1968. Try starting here:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-10-12.sbd.miller.86759.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 1, 2010 7:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

As you can see , there is a definite earlier period bias , among a lot of us here .
But if you like the 86 show, chances are you might like the 80's and 90's Dead, as well as the 60's and 70's Dead . The other recommendations are all good .
Mine would be with all the stuff you can listen to here , to check out the different eras . Check the archive for "best of " threads . With the 80's, it is usually thought that the beginning and end of the decade has the best shows ( something from the Warfield-Radio City run would be good , say 10/31/80 , and some 89, 8/6/89 has an unbelievable Scarlet>Fire ). For the post Brent era , I might recommend 4/1/91 .
Welcome , and happy listening !

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Oct 1, 2010 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

This is a great website for people new to the Dead:

http://gratefuldeadprojects.com/Top_100.html

And try not to let yourself be swayed by the overwhelming number of people on this message board that will try to convince you that anything after 1978 sucks and isn't worth your time. That's a bunch of bullshit in my opinion and you'd be missing out on tons of great music.

Here's some links for your streaming pleasure of some of my faves:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-20.aud.remaster.sirmick.27583.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-07-08.sbd.miller.106070.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-28.mtx.haugh.95943.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-29.mtx.hansokolow.97118.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-30.fm.greider-nawrocki.3390.sbefail.shnf

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 1, 2010 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

A nice list above, though I want to second and emphasize how incredible this show is, especially for the acoustic material with Grisman and David Nelson.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-20.aud.remaster.sirmick.27583.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: ned the head Date: Oct 1, 2010 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Sean

Welcome to the Dead. One of my favorite cassette tapes was a fourth generation soundboard of 2-18-71. A whole bunch of songs debuted at this concert, it was an E.S.P. show (do some research), and it was Mickey's last show for a good long while ushering in an almost four year stretch of the Grateful Dead's best shows. Here it is;

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-02-18.sbd.cantor-crouch-diebert-gmb.85478.sbeok.flac16

Just start at the Dark Star thru Me and My Uncle to see what you're in for.

This can be an invaluable resource for you;

http://www.setlists.net/

enjoy, and welcome again.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 1, 2010 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Sean -

Listen to them all and form your own opinion. Come back when you are done and let us know what you think is the best show.

Get cracking.......

Seriously though, welcome. My advice to you is to not take advice from any of us in here as none of us have any bias or preconceived notions or rabid, foam-at-the-mouth opinions about any of the following:

1. Which era is better than another
2. Soundboards vs. audience vs. matix recordings
3. Pig vs. Keith vs Brent vs. whoever
4. Donna vs. our eardrums
5. Whether or not you needed to use pharmaceutical enhancement to enjoy or "get" the Dead
6. Bluegrass vs. everything else
7. Sheep or cows
8. Feeding or starving trolls
9. Left vs. right, conservative vs. liberal, red vs. blue
10. Federal Reserve vs. all of us
11. Ad nauseum vs. etc.

Again, welcome to the freak show.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 1, 2010 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Looks like you pretty much recapped the last couple of years. Excellent.

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: Sep 30, 2010 11:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New to the Dead

Welcome, listen and learn my good friend! What a wonderful world.......